I was listening to Patrick and Sig discuss the new Sun Lord iconic class in DDOCast 301.
Their take was pretty negative. “A divine class with INT?” they said, or something to that effect anyway, “what’s the point?” And so the scoffing continued.
I don’t know if I know the point about Sun Lords, but I know a point: for the first time, a Cleric might have a usable number of skills. But on further thought, the INT bonus did not go far enough. Sun Lords get a bonus to Intelligence, their casting ability is still Wisdom-based.
Otherwise we could create Cleric/Wizard multi-class characters and that would be awesome. Sort of a roll-your-own Mystic Theurge. Check out the Mystic Theurge above, by Jason Engle.
I suppose one could do something like that now – max out CHA and have a Sorceror/Favored Soul. You’d have a divine caster/arcane caster that uses the same statistic to power all of her spells. The downside is caster levels. Many spells calculate damage or DC using the caster’s class level rather than the character level. In other words, if a Sorceror 10/FvS 10 hits you with Fireball, your save will be facing the same Fireball that a regular 10th level sorceror can throw, all those cleric levels are not included.
Although I wonder … does Heighten factor spell level increase based on casting class level? Or character level? I imagine the former but I do not know for sure.
Regardless, a 10th level FvS never gets Heal or Blade Barrier, while a 10th level sorceror is similarly limited to 5th level spells and lower. While this character could be very useful in tabletop D&D, it is just not so in DDO. Even a -shudder- bard would be more effective.*
* No offense meant to bards. It is not your fault that the game designers like all of the other classes better.
But all this got me to thinking. What if, instead of having to take non-classed Epic levels at level 21+, we could take anything? As long as we never exceeded 20 levels in any one class? Now a level 20 Sorceror/level 10 FvS is actually possible, and potentially, awesome! Or the reverse, an FvS20/Sorc10.
Think about it. 20 levels of caster, plus epic destinies, meaning you are absolutely end-game viable. Now throw in as many as 10 levels of the other kind of casting and wow, you are an amazing character. An 18/12 split means you would get 6th level spells from your off class.
Oh so tasty! An end-game Sorc that can play healer. Or an end-game FvS that can keep everyone Hasted and Raged and has several more DOT spells too!
Or what if we left the realm of pure casters and started talking about a Cleric 18/Paladin 8? Or a Wizard20/Monk10? or … or …
I have to stop I’m starting to drool.
Epic levels as they exist today are okay. Much better than the older alternative where one was capped at 20. But now that I have seen this other world, this magical place where I can take other classes instead of having to take an Epic level, now that I have been to this mountaintop, nothing will be the same.
I want it. I only wish I’d thought of it in time to talk to WB people about it when I was in the same room with them for the better part of two days.
A man has to have hope, right?
🙂 😀 🙂