I’m going to pretend that this is not a rant, but more of a beef. A beef is better, yes? A righteous call-out of something that is bugging me, rather than a graceless and nonconstructive bitch session. Plus it isn’t even that serious of a beef. No one is going to like everything; that’s just an unrealistic expectation. So this isn’t a rant, and isn’t really even a beef. It is simply that I don’t like something, which is okay, right? Right?
Okay. Deep breath.
I am seriously tired of the Temple of Elemental Evil.
Yes I know how lovely it is (and it is quite lovely. You really should click on the wallpaper preview below to see the full-sized version. It is breathtaking). And yes, I know it is based on a classic D&D module and we love classic D&D modules. But nonetheless, I am tired of it. Exhausted. Approaching disgusted.
There, I said it. And I am. Totally. Tired. Of. TOEE. It is a fine quest, excellent the first time through. Still fine on the second run, and the the third. But you need to run the quest 15-20 times to outfit one character with temple gear. Fifteen to twenty times! And it is just not that kind of quest.
We used to have to run Tower of Despair 20 times to get the ring we wanted. Or forty, or even sixty if one was unlucky. And that was per-character that wanted a ring.
And that was grindy. But still, it was different. For one thing, ToD is a raid; you run it in a group. It has variety; there are three different boss fights and each one requires different tactics and styles. And on top of that, it can be learned and then run rather quickly, maybe 30 minutes start to finish. So yes, it was a grind, and we accepted that. But it was a relatively acceptable grind.
TOEE is not like that at all. It is just relentless. You walk into a room and have to fight a dozen monsters. While you are doing this, you can see down the hall, and there are three more stacks of a dozen monsters, all just standing there for no reason, all of which you are going to have to bypass or deal with. Over and over and over. And the halls just keep going … all filled with aimlessly loitering stacks of monsters.
Sneak doesn’t work. Crowd control doesn’t work. If you don’t just kill everything you end up with Red Alert and probably dead. There may be some people who have perfected some tactics to remove a little of the sting out of this but I haven’t seen it. Whether running in a PUG, or running in my guild, it always boils down to kill everything.
Some efficiency can be bought by splitting up a little and covering more ground. Some fights can be avoided by scouting hallways for dead ends and just skipping them if they don’t contain a chest. But nothing changes the endless slog of kill a dozen orcs, then a dozen cultists, then a dozen of something else, then repeat over and over until you find yourself nodding off at your keyboard wishing you could just take a nap and have it all be over when you wake up.
The best we’ve ever done as a guild is two hours, start to finish, parts one and two. And I felt pretty good about that. But that is basically the entire evening.
So tiring. So grindy. And so required.
I’ve been through both parts on a variety of characters about a dozen times. I helped my Gamer Girl build a weapon before I started accumulating for myself. But even so, after a dozen trips I have enough mushrooms of various colors to build about a weapon and a half.
All I want to do is build two weapons and one armor. Well, no, actually I wanted to build a variety of things for my various characters, like I usually do when this sort of thing comes up. Crossbow for my artificer, rapier for my Commando, maul for my fighter, etc. But I had to pull back, way back, to have any hope of achieving these goals at all.
Two weapons. One suit of armor. Just enough stuff to equip one character. One! And even that is another 8-10 complete runs through both chapters.
I don’t know if I have it in me. It isn’t fun anymore, it’s just work. Blehh.
I sure hope Update 27 is a turnaround from the way that the Temple of Elemental Evil works. I am rooting for something that is very, very different.
Come on Update 27!
What do you think? Am I out of line here?
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