Day 6 of the great Reincarnation Rebellion dawns with battle lines drawn pretty much as they have been since Turbine’s attempted surrender late Monday evening.
On one side, Turbine continues to post their thoughts and philosophies while discussing possible adjustments to their design and the trade-offs those changes would require.
On the other side, there remain holdouts who are dissatisfied with (1) having to run Epic content to earn Heroic reincarnations or (2) believe Commendations of Valor should be easier to get and bind to account instead of bind to character or (3) do not believe it should be necessary to purchase any content to earn any reincarnation or (4) do not want Sagas to be a required part of the reincarnation cycle.
Which are good points by the way. There are other protester points too, too many to fit into a two-paragraph summary. More on that below.
A New Point Of View
Reader Ausdoerrt provided his version of the weekend’s rebellion in a press release format. It is interesting and well-written, but unfortunately when he tried to post it as a comment on this thread, I mistook it for a possible malware attempt and suppressed it. I’ve since gotten a copy directly from Ausdoerrt and am hosting it here on DDOGamer.
Here is Ausdoerrt’s press release:
Good stuff in here, and now it is even Malwarebytes-certified safe for your viewing pleasure. Give it a read.
I find it odd that so many people are dead-set certain that this set of changes means Turbine is out to get them. Some of the comments on the forum threads, even my own forum thread, seem to be written from the belief that this is an insidious plot, with evil hidden agendas, designed to either
- Pull money out of our wallets
- Kill off Free To Play
- Get everyone to stop playing DDO and move to LotRO
- Some other tinfoil hat-based logic that I am not sufficiently conspiracy-minded to even follow
If the above seems harsh, I apologize, but come on people. Turbine is not filled with a bunch of harridans and villains that are out to get anyone. I’ve met many of these people and they are hard-working, generally likeable people trying to do good work and create a game we will enjoy playing.
Yes, for them it is just a job (although for some of them it is their dream job) while for us it is an avocation. No one at Turbine plays DDO for 25+ hours per week, no one has been grinding the endgame since MotU came out, no one has a completionist that they have been working for four years.
That does cause a mismatch in expectations and in point of view. Turbine really does need a player ombudsman. This is the fifth or sixth time I’ve had to mention that, maybe I need to write it up in greater detail rather than continuously referring to it offhand as if everyone will instantly know what I mean. But I digress.
I will get down-voted for having written this section but so be it. Most of the people who remain adamantly opposed to the changes have understandable reasons and points of view. I may not agree with them but I can understand them. Others seem to feel this is Us versus Them in a way that makes no sense at all. We are all on the same team, trying to enjoy and extend our favorite game. If there is a miscommunication or a mistake, it is only that, and all of us are equally capable of miss-stepping in our own lives and jobs.
Turbine is not evil. Let’s cut them a little slack.
Having said all that, I cheerfully took my place on the bridge too. Partially because it was fun, partially because I thought I’d get some good screenshots (and I did!), but also because it needed to be done.
Therefore, I get a vote in what constitutes victory. Some readers will not agree, there was no Unconditional Surrender. But there could not be, it would not be possible for Turbine to give all of us what we want, we don’t all want the same things.
But here’s what we did get:
- Recognition that heroic reincarnation should not require extended epic activities
- Retention of the ability to buy Heroic Hearts with Epic Tokens, for now
- An implied promise to hold off on removing Epic Tokens until there are Heroic ways to earn Valors. Implied, not stated, but still, remember they are Not Evil
- Very significant reductions to the Valor numbers needed for all of the Reincarnations
- Recognition that Free to Play players need to reincarnate too
- A clear statement that epic sagas should be rewarding at least 3 Valors per quest, not .5 as was shown in the most commonly-quoted example from Lamannia
- An ongoing discussion with developers about all of this
If you still don’t think we have their attention, if you continue to believe that you need to stand on the bridge in Wayfinder (and some are, I just checked), okay, have fun and more power to ya, but I have to ask: are you are following Glin and Vargouille on the Lamannia Dev Tracker?
You are not going to be able to earn Epic Hearts by running Time is Money for a few hours. If you are holding out for this, give up now, they’ve made it clear and they are not going to budge. You are going to have to run Epic quests to earn Epic reincarnations. I personally find that to be quite appropriate.
Some great screenshots! This one will end up as a wallpaper
We already have Heroic reincarnation, meaning changes to that system feel like a take-back. But Epic reincarnation is all new; Turbine should feel free and even encouraged to build this reincarnation loop howsoever they think will be best for the game in the long run.
So we have engaged developers who are listening closely and modifying their Ivory Tower designs to better accommodate real-world concerns. We have our Epic Tokens back until we no longer need them. We have an all-new system that promises to provide long-term re-playability for much of our current Epic content and all of the new Epic content to come. We even have Glin putting in a twelve-hour workday on Monday just due to our efforts.
How is this not a Victory?
Okay, now bring on the down-votes
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